Please Ignore Ron Paul
An Open Letter to ‘Old Media’.
Sometimes I wish I understood, but could not seem to comprehend why you do it, but then minutes later I did not give a damn anymore. And that is why you will fail.
Why are you so set on who you want the presidential candidates to be? Is it that you see that the Status Quo is threatened? Is change such a bad thing? Maybe the reason doesn’t matter. In the end of each day, no matter if you are a democrat, republican, liberal, conservative, neo-con, corporate power representative, or what ever else … We are all still United States Citizens. We all care about America, right … Right? The sad truth is that we do not. Perhaps liberty is not a concern of the powerful, and If you do not care, then I can not care for you. And that is why you will fail.
For years you have force fed what you deem to be important down the throats of Americans citizens. Minimized most of what the public should be concerned about while sensationalizing the mundane and trivial. Did you do it for the all powerful dollar? The same dollar that is now worth half of what it was worth a few years ago? Even as I ask, the reason does not matter. And that is why you will fail.
I must admit that you almost had me. At one time I felt that the United States reigned supreme, the greatest, the infallible, the just. Those were happy times … so I happily ignored reality while I sort-of-listened to your newscasters tell me how it really was. Oh yes, I remember … The ‘Sold’ war. The logic, your logic, to me it made sense. it was simple really, simple enough for the average channel surfer or newspaper reader to get: To defend, we must go on the offensive. To protect ourself, we must attack them. And years later, after the reasons we went there had changed and changed again … And when there was no army left for us to fight … new reasons were given to us as to why we are still there and why we had to stay and can not leave. But, like so many others, I could flip through the channels, not feeling anything as the casualty toll rose and rose. And that is why you will fail.
If not for you, maybe I would not have ever given a damn. I do not remember exactly when, or how it happened, I can only remember the ‘why‘: Giuliani Vs. Clinton, or maybe Rommy Vs. Obama or maybe it would be McCain VS. Edwards. Flick, flick, flick, same, same, same, ‘one of these guys WILL be your candidate, we say so’. I change the channel again. I could not care less because I did not care at all. And that is why you will fail.
I must thank you for opening my eyes. You see, somewhere in the haze, something began to stand out. Every once in a while I would be trying to ignore you while waiting for the next rerun of my favorite show and you would continue to tell us who our president would be. Then you went out of your way to tell us that there was someone who has ‘No chance’ and you did not know why they were even trying. At first I dismissed it, after all, you were telling us who was ‘winning’, and you could be trusted, but the more I heard about the guy who absolutely had ‘NO CHANCE!’, this man, ‘Ron Paul would never … could never …’, the closer I began to listen. Somehow if you hear shouting for so long, it simply becomes background noise and the smallest whisper can be heard. In all of your screaming about who was winning, the only thing I picked up was the name that you said could not. And that is why you will fail.
“Google Ron Paul!” a sign said. It was somewhere on a side street in MD. I passed it as I drove home one day. Because of you, I remembered that name. I wanted to see what it was about this person that made you so sure he could not be in the running. So I went home and looked up the name. I do not even have to tell you what happened then. Almost any American that does it for themselves already knows what I’m talking about. I will never forget that it was your bias against this man that made me remember him. And that is why you will fail.
Now as I close out this letter, I imagine that for every person who looked into this so called ‘No Chance’ candidate you think to your collective selves: “So What! You are in the minority, you still have no chance! No Chance! No Chance!” I would just like to point out that our numbers (even though they continue to grow substantially), do not matter. They truly do not. Have you realized why yet? No? It’s because the average person that listens to you is exactly like I was. You tell them who you think our next president will be and they will happily sit back and accept that you know what you are talking about. On their recliners or couches, fine with the status quo, they do not think they count and they will not make an effort to vote. After all, You told them the battle has already been decided. With the exception of the ones who look in to the only person who can not win, the rest will not give a damn at all … ever. Meanwhile this minority, this revolution, it does what it does, these amazing things that have never been done before, these are the people who are out there making a change, and then there is you, continuing to do the best thing for us by ignoring Ron Paul. And that is why you will fail.
Everyone else, you’re welcome to partake in the Tea Party of ‘07! Thanks for reading.
Wow, I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Viva la Ron Paul Revolution!!
Man, this was poetry…absolutely moveing…a manifesto almost….really beautifully written, thank you…
<3
God Bless You my brother and for this historic revolution that we fight together for all men and women to have liberty and to be “FREE”. Thank You.
I totally agree with you. We are awakening from the slumber and it’s contagious! And you’re right - many of those who want to remain sheepish won’t even show up to vote. Have you ever seen the statue in Hains Pt, DC called The Awakening?
I think it resembles what’s happening today - in all spectrums of our lives: from the deception of the media & the polititians to the military industrial complex to big pharma. It’s big stuff and there is no stopping it. Thank God for the internet and Ron Paul of course!
Last words before he sets out to die spectacularly.
I agree with the sentiment, except, it is “accept” not “except”.
And this is why they will fail. Because they faltered in their plans.
Please demand the death of HR (House Bill) 1955 and S (Senate Bill) 1959.
Destroy the works of all Secret Societies.
Digg front page. Wow. I’m shocked. I guess we’ll see how good wordpress handles all you guys.
Edit (few hours later) : Man, it up to second place on the most popular list. I would like to thank you all for reading and participating in the comments. Say what you want here, I’m not the type to remove negativity, I am perfectly fine with agreeing to disagree.
While I’m at it, I’d like to give a shout out -Plug- to Graham over at http://www.bbdimension.com/ for hosting this site. I’m amazed that this wordpress database did not crash and burn like so many others when they get dugg to the front page. I attribute this to the great hosting they provide. - /Plug -
Getting back on point, thank you once again for being active and taking part in what happens to the future of our county.
Guys, take a deep breath. The battle is in your mind; you’re letting a fun sense of self-importance run away with you.
It’s no surprise that whoever tried to be the anti-war Republican candidate would score some cheap populist points. This doesn’t make him a trend, a revolution, or a tea party.
In 5 years Ron Paul will be a fun little history channel footnote. When that happens, hopefully this will still be posted and we can all have a hearty laugh at your earnest and infinite naivete.
Thank you for this, and especially for this title.
The word you were looking for was “infallible”, not “infoulable”…
> we can all have a hearty laugh at your earnest and infinite naivete.
Vaughn is trotting the “bandwagon” fallacy, a.k.a. peer pressure.
“The Bandwagon is a fallacy in which a threat of rejection by one’s peers (or peer pressure) is substituted for evidence”
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/bandwagon.html
Looks like someone just finished their freshman course in American Government.
Vaughn:
Don’t speak of things on which you don’t understand.
fuck you, vaughn
“In 5 years Ron Paul will be a fun little history channel footnote. When that happens, hopefully this will still be posted and we can all have a hearty laugh at your earnest and infinite naivete.”
If this happens, you can pat yourself on the back for supporting the continued rape of American citizens.
Hey, by all means, don’t let me burst your bubble. If it was that easy for me to feel like I was at the crux of a massive historical and fateful struggle I’d enjoy it, too. Good for you guys. It’s really sweet.
So keep the dream alive! Don’t succumb to peer pressure! Yay!
Ron Paul will be king! He is a rational leader with a cogent and uncrazy philosophy! He has a chance of being nomindated and elected!
Yay! HYEAAAAARRGHH!!!
This is one of the greatest blogs I’ve ever read. Thanks for sharing.
He’s catching on, I’m telling you!
PS- Joe, yes, you get it exactly: I support the continued rape of American citizens. Excellent point, my friend.
And in no way do comments make that make you sound naive, cheap, or self-important.
Ever wonder why nobody tells 1% guys like Hunter and Biden that they don’t have a chance and can’t win? Or asks Tancredo if he’ll join the Nativist Party after he loses as a Republican?
Ron Paul,
John Anderson of 2008
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Anderson
Great open letter! Thank you for taking the time to write, post and share it with us all. It states so much that many of us feel. You did some excellent expression with words here.
omg.. the real and really, only candidate that would restore the US to its former greatness!
Vote Ron Paul for peace, freedom and prosperity!
Tea Party 07!
Koh Choon Lin
To those who say this is not some sort of very important moving event.
I checked Meetup.com for local meetup groups for all presidential canidates. Besides Ron Paul, the only other active meetup groups were Huckabee and Obama with 9 and 12 members respectivley. The Obama group has not has any members attend a meetup since April, the Huckabee group has never had a meetup.
The local Ron Paul group has 177 members, and has had meetups at an average of every other week since June. We’re getting together to knock on doors, and learn how our cacus works.
In a time of universal apathy, I believe our dedicated activism is indeed a revolutionary act.
That’s a great post. I used to never feel controlled by the old media. Being that they were the default way of discovering what was going on in the world, the opinions of the talking-heads overshadowed my own will. Things began to change when I took the world’s smallest political quiz online about 4 years ago. I discovered then that the real way I felt was neither the right nor the left. The political opinion that I have is one of freedom… in all spheres of life; Not just the Right sphere (economic) or the left sphere (persona).
That political philosophy is most represented by Dr. Paul. To think that the Old Media almost denied me the opportunity to vote for the one truthful politician that I have ever heard of is sickening. He wasn’t given a chance by them… but the PEOPLE will give him that chance. Without them.
In one sense it doesn’t matter whether Ron Paul’s candidacy is “viable”. Enough people are interested in libertarian issues to swing this election. The powers-that-be find that frightening, as evidenced by the recent hand wringing over whether Ron Paul would run as an independent.
Libertarians and independents don’t win many elections here in Oregon, but we are influential because we control the agenda as the swing vote. The same thing appears to be happening at the national level now.
The major parties brought this on themselves with their lack of differentiation and strategic use of wedge issues.
Vaughn FTW.
Has Ron Paul found http://godtub.com yet? I hope he has!
Ron Paul has a great campaign team made of young visionaries. That’s all he has, nothing less, nothing more. He is funded by news articles that focus on his stances on the war, taxes, and the drug war. He came to Clemson and gave a speech and I have never seen more people dissapointed in my life. He talked of abolishing the Department of Eductation, the Federal body that oversees Federal Student Loans and ensures that most of Paul’s audience can attend college. He talked of aboloshing many other departments that are necessary, such as the IRS. We need income taxes to stay solvent as a country. We can’t live on tarriffs alone or else say goodbye to Social Security and Medicare.
I know we have issues as a country, but a real candidate, not a single-issue candidate like Paul, is the answer. They have experienced political advisors who come up with real answers to our problems, not just abolish the agency and let capitalism handle it.
Speaking of revolution, do you suspect the next election might incite Civil War in America?
And this is where I call BS: the idea that Paul’s candidacy represents some endorsement of libertarian ideas in and of themselves.
Whatever traction he’s gotten it is built entirely on one issue: Iraq. That’s it. If it doesn’t happen, Ron Paul doesn’t happen, and whenever it gets resolved (if not sooner), how and whenever that happens, Ron Paul is forgotten.
I just think it is a massively oversimplified and self-indulgent analysis that allows one to look at all the variables on the table now and still believe that the level of attention that Ron Paul has gotten has anything to do with him or with libertarianism in an abstract sense.
It’s all about Iraq. And it’s gonna pass.
Get active. Use your representation in congress: http://www.innerlightdesign.com/yourvoice
Sure, let’s talk Iraq.
Opposition to the occupation is one position that is drawing increasingly more people toward the libertarian point of view. Time will tell how many people remain interested.
But the libertarian position has been consistent all along:
“Wars that are not defensive are merely acts of aggression against sovereign nations… And wars that are launched by presidents, rather than formally declared by Congress as the Constitution requires, are illegal.”
- Libertarian Party press release, August 2002
Rather insightful of them to see through the WMD intelligence arguments. Now that’s my kind of ‘naivete’.
Personally, I believe that as more Americans tire of following leaders who are subject to the winds of political fashion (the current front-runners are perfect examples), the principled libertarian way of thinking will continue to spread.
We must have people at every polling place in America to watch for fraud. We must witness the testing of every voting machine and veryify that the results are correct. The electronic voting machines can be manipulated and we should do our best to prevent this from happening.
And if they see we are going to win:
Remember what happened to Robert Kennedy… Ron Paul needs to be protected because the elites will do anything to stop this revolution from happening. I am suspect of the Secret Service also because they are a part of corrupt government. We all must be aware of the people around us if Dr Paul is in the area. He must be protected at all costs!
It wasn’t ‘insightful’ to see through WMD arguments. According to Libertarians, whether the WMD’s were there or not, we shouldn’t participate.
Nor am I saying libertarianism is naive.
What I am saying is that if you are buying the “no more politics as usual” script of non-front runner candidates, if you think that the world’s problems will be answered by the “new thinking” of some fringe philosophy that the masses are just getting ready to buy into, then YOU are naive.
Time will tell how many people remain interested, sure. In fact, time has told, and the answer is “not many”. Libertarianism isn’t exactly a new thing. It’s been around and is better known than most other extreme, purist fringe political philosophies. Sometimes it benefits from the issues of the day, like today, and gets a little surge. And some people embrace the philosophy given a specific issue (like drugs).
But critical mass as a sustainable cross-issue party? Forget about it.
Case in point: how can you build a viable movement on the backs of paranoid fantasies like the one Mr. Kopel just illustrated?
It’s going to take a lot of tinfoil to make that many hats!
I think it’s fair to say that Ron Pauls most important issue is a return to the spirit and words of the constitution. That means a return to liberty and personal sovereignty. That’s no small thing which will pass. It’s the underlying bedrock for the existence of America, and we’ve lost our way by chipping away at that bedrock.
Even if Ron Paul had no chance, we speak our minds by voting for him and what he stands for. It’s not a wasted gesture. But the voice of the people really speaking. Yeah, I’m down with Ron Paul.
Re: CC: “He came to Clemson and gave a speech and I have never seen more people dissapointed in my life. He talked of abolishing the Department of Eductation…”
Oh, you poor thing. You’re going to college and still can’t spell the words “Education” or “disappointed.” No wonder you know nothing about where the income taxes stolen and seized from the poor working class really go or that we’ve already said goodbye to Social Security!!!
Wake up. There’s a Revolution brewing and the time is Now for radical change. Ron Paul is that change.
Blakmira: I’m sure everyone else is as awed as I am by your spelling/typing prowess, but kind of a cheap debate tactic if you ask me.
But then, I’m one of those simple minded folks who can’t see your glorious, blazing revolution!
Viva la Paul! Let’s pretend he matters!
That’s okay. We don’t need your ilk. You are in the minority now. We’ll give you our used Bush crying towels when Ron Paul wins.
No utopias here. But a focus on individual freedoms appears to be the best way to deal with an imperfect world. I know that there will always be cartels and corruption, but nowhere is it written that they must be central to the system.
I doubt there will be a competitive, full-fledged third party here anytime soon. Or coalition government or anything of the sort. But libertarianism is creeping steadily into the agenda as a guiding philosophy. Please note that Ron Paul is drawing all this support as a member of the libertarian caucus of the Republican party.
Fred Thompson is better.
Wait, us Paul skeptics are in the minority now?
OK, so blakmira is a hell of a good speller but isn’t so good with the numbers.
Very well written, it is almost as if you described my exact same experience when I discovered Dr. Paul, you definitely managed to capture the emotion and hope.
After I saw Ron Paul on the Tonight Show I went out and bought his book, “A Foreign Policy Of Freedom”. It is a great book and proves to me that Dr. Paul is sincere and has had these views all along. Really good book and I recommend it to everyone.
Screw you dude. I hope this server starts smoking from the Digg traffic!
Hi I just want to say that,
I have decided I am going to steal good quotes from past debates from Ron Paul. In fact! I already have! He is secretly my hero.
In fact I think all the other candidates might start doing the same because we like to be politically expedient!
this guy is gonna get so much street cred, w00t!
The media supports the candidate that will bow down to their master (the leaders of the New World order). What you blogged is interesting, but how far will you take this? Will you be going to the streets, educating the apathetic dumb public on what you have discovered?
Only a very small percentage of the US population votes, because most of the citizens don’t care. Because of this we ended up with the president we currently have.
If we don’t wake up now, one day we will wake up into a different world, into New World Order. A world wherein the chosen few has power over the rest of us. This future has always been the New World order’s dream, and they have been working from the beginning to achieve this. They now own almost all of the world media outlet, a powerful brain washing tool. They have been striving to have the powerful leaders in the world under their control, by picking a subservient candidate and making him/her win. Unbelievable? Read the papers and see what bills gets passed and what bills gets vetoed by the president.
Wake-up Dorothy, before you get in too deep into the rabbit hole and find that you can no longer get out.
So well written and I completely agree. I would never vote for Ron Paul based on issues other than his courageous stance on ending the war, but I would rather have Ron Paul any day than any one of those Republican candidates. Maybe I’ll come around, but what I care about is the “process” of electing our leaders and supporting people with ideas and not what is fed to us in the News. If Ron Paul (and others) have a fair chance to get his message out there then we might actually be able to use our own minds and make informed decisions.
1. Ron Paul has a great team of spammers working around the clock spamming every popular news site online.
2. For all the BS stories you find on digg, reddit, etc., how many actual policy pieces have you seen on RP? Hmmm, none. It’s very easy to just say “mainstream media is against Ron Paul, so we should support him and spam everyone” without actually looking into anything Ron Paul stands for.
So let’s look at his positions. This is not a value judgement, just a checklist of what he stands for…something to think about before spamming every blog out there:
Ron Paul is:
against stem cell research
against abortion
against family planning as a part of foreign aid
against all government regulation (don’t you agree that having food and drug safety is just a huge invasion of privacy?)
against gay adoption
against increasing CAFE standards and alternative energy incentives
against nationwide amber alerts
wants to close the Department of Energy, Department of Education, and Homeland Security
against requiring lobbyists to disclose donations
against gun control
for allowing everyone to carry concealed weapons
for building a fence at the Mexican border
against raising the minimum wage
for complete elimination of IRS
So, if you agree with his positions, I wish you the best in trying to promote your candidate. If you think that the Ron Paul “as advertised” is a lot different than he actually is, well, you might want to pause before digging the next piece of spam.
Best.
You’re funny.
Also, what does Ron Paul think of these guys being such huge supporters of him?
http://www.whitecivilrights.com
http://www.stormfront.org
Wow, the author surely likes contrasts. Until recently he claims to have been completely apolitical and didn’t care. Suddenly, he realizes that his vote is being misused and he is being mislead by the mass media. Next thing you know, he jumps into politics neck-deep, having studied RP’s platform thoroughly!
One has to presume that feeling so misinformed until now, he decided to also study the platforms of all presidential candidates, then sat down, thought for a long time and made his choice. I didn’t see it in his passionate speech, but I hope that’s what he did! Otherwise, how would he know that this time around someone else isn’t pulling his leg again?
I like Ron Paul, if for nothing else at least for wearing the revolutionary badge. But if he claims to be a champion of freedom he should have stayed in the congress and voted against HR 1959, not campaigning!
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Has anyone stopped to think maybe the media has chosen Ron Paul and is doing the perfect job of promoting him? It is certainly an interesting thought, but I’m voting for him regardless
@Barry Freed:
Exactly correct, if you append “being funded or legislated by the federal government” to every ‘against’ position you listed.
In short, the liberal states get a mandate to keep doing what they’ve had to do anyway while Bush & co. cut most federal social programs and ran amok with our tax dollars, and the conservative states can return to the 19th century if they so wish. Everyone will be much happier.
Love to read that one negative prick that always pops up to sow that seed of doubt. An absolute waste of time that only helps to strengthen the resolve of supporters.
Can someone please order up another tinfoil hat for James? We’re also going to need some more kool-aid.
Ron Paul is 18 feet tall and smells of lilacs! When he’s president the world will see absolute justice! Yay!
James: Doubt is, no doubt, always better than uninformed certainty. I’m not saying RP’s supporters are uninformed. Just that doubt is not always bad, and resolve and certainty - not always good.
Also, “negative prick” does not exactly bear a definitive positive connotation
First “Katie” god has nothing to do with it. I/We don’t need the blessing of a mythological figure. It would be more appropriate to thank everyone who has engaged in the conversation. If anything, I am seeing the other candidates are starting to usurp Paul’s message. McCain is pissed because it should be him who is saying these things but he has gotten religion and I can’t stand someone who plays the part.
A question: When you go to work do you care if the person sitting next to you is a religious person? My answer is NO. I care if they are a productive member of the team, group, division, company. All of this religion non-sense has bubbled up to the surface because the “boomers” are getting close to or are reaching the end of there life and now are hedging their bets for the next life.
Another Question: If you didn’t have religion or someone telling you what to do what would you do?
The truth of this open letter is that for the longest time we have been asleep. We didn’t have the sixties, we were sold by our parents who during the 70’s and 80’s were all about “Me” and being apart of the machine. And they wonder why we are so fat now.
As for the war. If we are going to “win” anything we need to feel it here at home. If we are going to stay in a hostile territory we need to swallow deep and starting lining them up via the draft. We need to go into the area (a region that was carved up and created in the 20th century) with overwhelming force and put it down. Otherwise we are just playing army and getting people on both sides killed for nothing more than a policy to keep the status quo in place.
So it isn’t about the war, it is about ideas whose time have come.
I am all for smaller federal government, but I think we also should state the second half of that sentence that state and local governments need to step up and do their parts, states and cities are where we do most of the living and dying in. I am all for consumption taxes, in stead of I make you take taxes.
People need to take some personal responsibility. We are the ones in charge, we are the ones who make the dough-nuts.
Stop spending my, my children’s and my children’s children’s money. Stop making it impossible to live
That is what it is about!
Great, I write this long response and there is another James who is posting….
Great comment Timothy,
Its all been decided already. The Bilderbergs of this world control the media, the banks,the land,the housing market,and all of us. The dollar will tank, the North American Union will be formed and the end of America as we know it will begin. Do we as proud Americas even have the will to revolt. The New World Order must be destroyed.
New world order? Revolt? North American Union?
Wait, are we talking about politics or a Wachowski brothers movie plot?
Way too much moonbattery on display here…
No just reality!
Just out of curiosity, how many people here support RP’s return to the economic dark ages? Inflexible monetary supply anyone? Or is a return to the economic policies that brought us the great depression not on the minds of the Ron Paulies?
No, seriously, PLEASE IGNORE RON PAUL
Sensible Monetary Policy - So what we are doing today is Sensible? What fairyland are you living in? So instead of having a depression we are going to have deflation of value across the board because we owe everyone. If you don’t owe anyone then you are in the minority so we shouldn’t deal with it, right? We should keep doing the same thing we have been. Hum..
“Economic policies that brought us the Great Depression” - You mean the Federal Reserve System established in 1913?
I’m not arguing that we run the best FISCAL policy right now. The federal reserve is just doing its best to support a bad budget. However, a total rejection of Keynsian economics will lead nowhere good. Enjoy not being able to keep the economy stable. Worked out great last time.
And no, I was not referring to the Federal Reserve, but the Keynsian implementation of it.
Much love. Cross-posted.
DOWN WITH RON PAUL
DOWN WITH GOLD STANDARD
KILL ALL NIGGERS, JEWS, SPICS, ETC
WHITE PRIDE
@Vaughn
You’re a troll. If you have a problem with Ron Paul’s policies, write a blog post somewhere and link to it. Your witless and baseless attacks do nothing for you, and only help to fuel the fire that is America’s discontent with our flawed foreign policy, monetary policy, and disregard for the American Constitution.
Hands down the most visceral assembly of words I’ve read in a very long time. Thank you Kris.
Hell of a post to throw up there without your name on it, you coward.
Economic Dark Ages? First of all the gold standard that RP talks of going back to is slightly misleading. We have never had a TRUE gold standard in the country, only a fractionalized gold standard which is the cause of the boom/bust cycle. I challenge you to reasearch the difference because it is big.
Secondly, I’m not sure if you have ever heard of Milton Friedman but he was a Nobel Peace Prize wininning economist. He said multiple times that only reason for the Great Depression was because of the Fed Reserves manipulation of the money supply. This elastic money supply that people think is so great. On his 90th birthday Ben Bernanke gave a speach to him and his wife and I quote:
“I would like to say to Milton and Anna: Regarding the Great Depression. You’re right, we did it. We’re very sorry. But thanks to you, we won’t do it again.”
http://www.federalreserve.gov/BOARDDOCS/SPEECHES/2002/20021108/default.htm
To be realistic the only sensible monetary policy that exists is to allow the free market and laws of supply and demand manipulate the market as opposed to politicians and chairmen of boards pulling levers and turning wheels to attempt to get desired results. The laws of economics will always restore the equilibrium…eventually.
Unfortunately we are already past due for a correction.
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NAU?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYGrn0hZlCQ
New world order?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
Revolt?
Don’t have a video about this one yet. Let Bush take over as supreme dictator and I will have one for you.
No these are just imaginary things. No evidence for them at all.
I must be a moon bat for listening to something the president of Mexico said. I must be a tin foil hat wearer for listening to what the father of our current President had said.
Yup I must be nutso
For clarity, the coward comment was referring to the white pride post.
But David J Smith, try for 60 seconds not to take yourself so seriously. It might improve your judgement. I know how passionate you must have been about monetary policy 12 months ago before this whole Ron Paul charade.
Oh no! I’m fuelling the fire! The fire of la revolucion Paul!
Have you guys decided where you’re going to channel your discontent after this campaign inevitably dies out?
Amazing. Thank you for writing this. Forwarding this to all my friends.
When do we stop chasing our tails and arguing about the same things endlessly?
- What is the cost and consequences for winning?
How have we advanced humankind in any way with the endless back and forth?
If all you can do is bitch without any real answers then quit wasting our time.
All this has done is to serve as a distraction.
I’m sorry, it’s just you guys get so pious when you’re angry, and it really is fun to watch.
I’ll stop distracting you now, and let you work out your little solution to the advancement of humankind that somehow involves Ron Paul. Let me know when you’ve got a schematic together.
This has happened before, and the most recent time I remember was with Ronald Reagan. The media pretended he had no chance against Gerald Ford, and Ford only barely edged him out for the nomination. Four years later, Reagan was nominated over the objections of the country club republicans, and then he was elected to howls of derision from the media.
-jcr
Hello brother in law. I like a lot of Ron Paul’s ideas. Yes, change is good, but remember, people don’t really like change, especially not big changes all at once. How do you change things in government? A little at a time. Look back 20 years, from 1987 to now, a lot has changed, some good, some bad, but in most cases, more good than bad, but that progress could not have been made in one presidential term.
I’m an old school Republican, lower taxes, less government spending, & smaller government. At some point, it seems like the Republican party has changed, I mean come on, the last 8 years has seen more spending than any administration in history. WTF is up with that? The lower taxes are good, but not when they just borrow to increase spending.
What sort of change do I want? I’d settle for a balanced budget with no tax increases.
73 de Joe
I suggest that some of you posters do some research before posting “facts”. Starting with the creation of the Federal Reserve inc. Don’t you find it odd that all of our media in the United States is linked to the CFR? As well as a majority of democratic and republican ex presidents and many of the current “hope fulls”. Are so many of you so arrogant that you cant see the obvious conflict of interest a political/media monopoly is? I remember hearing about things in the news and reacting exactly as they wanted, what else did we know? What else have our parents known except that which was fed to us by the media. Do you know that by parroting the “kooks and tinfoil hat” attacks you are simply carrying out the latest program they fed you? Is that what you want for your children? Micro-chips and mindless servitude?
Sure RP is a long shot but his message is what needs to be propagated. We have a rule book — it’s called the Constitution. He’s the only one willing to play by it. It’s more than Iraq. It’s more than the slipping cost of the dollar. It’s more than immigration.
The revolution _is_ actually happening: Americans are opening their eyes and seeing how poorly our representatives are representing us. It is our fault though, we were so apathetic, we let it become like this. The good news is that times are changing.
Vaughn would like you to believe that nothing is happening with respect to RP and that all is well. If that were the case, why would he be trolling some little blog? Vaughn easily repeats the Fox News mantras as well: “shut up”; don’t think for yourself; I will tell you what to think:
Vaughn: The battle is in your mind;
Vaughn: No, seriously, PLEASE IGNORE RON PAUL
Vaughn: Viva la Paul! Let’s pretend he matters!
Vaughn’s only statement with any import is where he indicates why he doesn’t like RP: the simplicity of RP’s message. And, there, Vaughn’s perspective is skewed due to its lack of respect for the Constitution. Well done, Vaughn. You’ve occluded reality and substituted exactly what the major media outlets want you to believe — maybe we should buy some tinfoil for you? It’s okay though, we’re all naive at some point.
Regards,
– Jason
Joe there are changes but they are not really. Just phony surface things to keep the masses fooled and not realizing the policy makers have stayed the same.
Yes, for my children I want microchips and mindless servitude.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/paranoid-schizophrenia/DS00862
Subtle change over time would have been nice but considering the choices, there is no other choice for ANY change.
I really hope all these Ron Paul fans actually look at what his policies are before jumping on the bandwagon. Many of his policies are actually quite scary
Jason, I don’t know where you got the idea that my point of view is that Ron’s message is too simple, or how that would show a “lack of respect for the Constitution.”
But when you tell me I’m believing what the mass media wants me to believe, you basically invalidate all mainstream thought; just cause the mass media doesn’t find Ron Paul as engaging and relevant as you do doesn’t mean that there is a conspiracy behind it. He might just not be that relevant to a lot of people.
That “it’s what they want you to believe” crap is lazy arguing and the last stand of a very paranoid worldview.
Some of you guys are missing the whole point. It isn’t that they just ignored him or gave him very little time in the spot light. It’s because he is the only guy that they will go out of their way to tell the public that he can’t win or shouldn’t be running. Doesn’t that strike you as odd?
Coming from the UK, I’m rather hoping that both old _and_ new media will ignore this Ron Paul bloke. The trolling of his stuff on digg.com is getting seriously tedious.
Tee hee cute vaugn, you have a computer why not use it for research? Not Jr.high smeer attempts. The funny thing is while you were filling yer head with ballgames and fluff you have slipped into the “fringe” while the rest of us have simply started to wake up. Seriously wikipedia is great why dont you start editing submissions there the world needs yer wise input.
nice letter. He still wont win =)
Paul: I really hope all these Ron Paul fans actually look at what his policies are before jumping on the bandwagon. Many of his policies are actually quite scary
Paul, what’s scary? Is it scary because the government won’t tell you how to live? Is it scary to have to deal with all this freedom that we’re given? Is it scary to have fewer dead soldiers because they’re not dying in Iraq? Is a more solid dollar a scary thing? Hmm.
I’m actually quite interested to hear why people don’t like RP. Why would you want to cede power to the government to run your life? Do it yourself.
If you have some real content — real reasons — I’d like to hear them. You may end up changing my mind.
– Jason
@Vaughn
Why do you spend so much of your time trying to convince people that the Ron Paul movement is insignificant and ‘inevitably dies out’? If you are so sure of this, then why bother with it at all?
P.S.: Oops… I overlooked the “PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS” sign!
Sorry Rich its important and has world changing implications. We dont want to be tricked into a union nor into a NWO. Think how insignifigant we will all be to the elite then. So if it interupts yer surfing fun I apologize. I think theres a digg tool to ignore content isnt there? I could be wrong on that though. I know a genius named Vaughn Im sure he can code up a widget in between putting his foot in his mouth repeatedly.
Re economic policy: For those who don’t know the basis for RP’s economic policies, I recommend reading Ludwig von Mises “Human Action” (After taking economics in college, I read it, and was amazed at how silly and plainly false the orthodox teachings were.) Economics is a science, like any other, and is guided by principles which are grounded in reality. One can’t simply fashion a world of economic fantasy and live in it forever, as liberals and statists would have us do (yes, debt can be healthy for a growing economy, but, uh, 9 trillion dollars worth, with no end in sight?).
Anyone who doesn’t understand basic economic and monetary theory would be better off learning about it, rather than spending their time posting comments out of ignorance.
Man, I can’t wait until the election is over and all you Ron Paul people go away.
For you V ….
History in bite size easy to digest pieces and for anyone else wishing to connect a few dots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPlvdSQ6cAM
But wait thats just crazy i mean wheres some real world proof of this in action? You people are nuts i mean no one believes that oh theres more?….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbnpN07J_zg&feature=related
Lol@ Johnny where will you go to be a dick then without Ron Paul support forums?
At that point we’ll move on to the Mike Gravel forums. Or, forum.
Vaughn: ‘That “it’s what they want you to believe†crap is lazy arguing and the last stand of a very paranoid worldview.’
This is a reasonable statement. The real issue is journalistic integrity (i.e., are the media simply reporting the facts and their as-objective-as-humanly-possible interpretations of them, or are they either so brainwashed (meaning indoctrinated) or sycophantic that they are unable or unwilling to attempt even a pretense at objectivity). Watch how they interview RP (youtube), and tell me they are really trying to be objective (i.e., journalistic, versus sensationalistic or biased).
On a separate note (because I’m curious why you’re spending your time attacking someone else’s beliefs): What is it that you believe in? What is it about other people’s heartfelt belief in an idea, a hope, that bothers you so much? Would you have said the same about George Washington or Thomas Jefferson when they were “pimping their ideals”? Silly idealists, think you can make a difference in the world, who do you think you are?!
When you see the sun rise, what do you hope for?
Lol @ Vaughn or maybe you can go to the president paul forums. Or we could hit the bar and enjoy a blunt and hang out with our old friends returning from Iraq alive and possibly not suicidal. Would be a great night out in the peaceful city.
woot woot RON PAUL 08 finally someone that will lead this country back to its greatness
Johnny Griswold: “Man, I can’t wait until the election is over and all you Ron Paul people go away.”
Lol. Yeah, that’s what King George said.
Yes, I think that people who have been adrift for most of their lives with nothing to believe in (where everyone tries to sell you something, then you find out its a lie; rinse and repeat) can become a little enthusiastic when they finally find something that’s worth believing in. But if you think that the spirit that infused the American revolution and 230 years of American pride is going to just “go away,” you’re mistaken. Like a fire that has burned low, all it needs is a good stoking to come to life again. Sorry.
Vaughn,
First, you are correct. I misread your statement:
Vaughn: I just think it is a massively
oversimplified and self-indulgent analysis that
allows one to look at all the variables on the
table…
That was my mistake. You don’t really purport your view as much as making fun of others’. But that’s fine, and was my mistake.
Vaughn: But when you tell me I’m believing what the
mass media wants me to believe, you basically
invalidate all mainstream thought; just cause the
mass media doesn’t find Ron Paul as engaging and
relevant as you do doesn’t mean that there is a
conspiracy